Busybox replacement project - Revision history

Tim Bird: /* FAQ */

2012-03-22T21:10:07Z

‎FAQ

Karol: /* additional questions */ typo

2012-02-15T04:11:28Z

‎additional questions: typo

Tim Bird: /* Comments */ Change e-mail address

2012-02-09T21:30:28Z

‎Comments: Change e-mail address

Mirabilos: add beastiebox; suggest imil as contractor (I know him, nice guy, capable, interested in this)

2012-02-08T18:33:52Z

add beastiebox; suggest imil as contractor (I know him, nice guy, capable, interested in this)

Tim Bird: /* additional questions */

2012-02-03T19:01:23Z

‎additional questions

Tim Bird: answer questions.

2012-02-03T19:01:03Z

answer questions.

Dgharmon: /* new questions */

2012-02-03T10:09:04Z

‎new questions

Tim Bird: /* Status */

2012-02-02T21:39:31Z

‎Status

Tim Bird: /* FAQ */

2012-02-02T21:38:27Z

‎FAQ

Tim Bird: /* Related work */ add other projects

2012-02-02T21:28:55Z

‎Related work: add other projects

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 * Q. Can Tim's creation of this proposal be used to infer anything about Sony's compliance record, future compliance intent, or other business practices?
-* A. Tim has only recently informed his management about this proposal, and Sony has not yet (as of 2/2/12) agreed to support it.  So, "no, not really".  Sony has a good compliance record, and has strong compliance policies in place.  It has never been contacted by the SFC and has no expectation of being contacted by the SFC about any license violation of GPL software.  Tim is doing this as part of his (paid for by Sony) role in the industry to address issues which inhibit the adoption of Linux in consumer electronics.
+* A. Tim has only recently informed his management about this proposal, and Sony has not yet (as of 2/2/12) agreed to support it.  So, "no, not really".  Sony has a good compliance record, and has strong compliance policies in place. Tim is doing this as part of his (paid for by Sony) role in the industry to address issues which inhibit the adoption of Linux in consumer electronics.
 * Q. If it doesn't affect Sony, why are you doing this?  How does the busybox litigation and the remedy terms requested by the SFC inhibit the adoption of Linux in consumer electronics?

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 * Q. What companies dropped embedded Linux projects in response to litigation from the SFC??
-* A. LinkSys/Cicso is one example.  See http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10437.html?thread=301509#cmt301509
+* A. LinkSys/Cisco is one example.  See http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10437.html?thread=301509#cmt301509
 * Q. What compliant companies re-evaluated their adoption of Linux, please clarify 're-evaluate`?

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 People interested in supporting this project can do one of several things:
 * If you are an embedded Linux developer, you can start working on the ToyBox code, adding commands or features to it.
-* If you are a company interested in sponsoring or donating engineering resources to this project, please contact Tim Bird at tim dot bird at am dot sony dot com.
+* If you are a company interested in sponsoring or donating engineering resources to this project, please contact Tim Bird.  (I used to have my Sony e-mail address here, but it gave people the wrong impression that this was a Sony project.  Please use my gmail account: tbird20d (at) gmail dot com.
 == Status ==

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 == Contractor Candidates ==
-Rob Landley
+* Rob Landley
 == Related work ==
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 ** See http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/busybox-dev
 ** I can't find the source, maybe it's part of the ksh93 project?
 == Comments ==

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 [feel free to add new questions here.  The ones above feel a bit 'rigged'.]
 === additional questions ===
-* Q. What companies using Busybox did the SFC requested unrelated source code from - please clarify unrelated?
+* Q. What companies using Busybox did the SFC request unrelated source code from - please clarify unrelated?
 * A. My understanding is that everyone the SFC litigates and eventually settles with is required to pass SFC audits for 3 years.  See http://lwn.net/Articles/478337/  I believe that SFC requires auditing of every GPL-based product a company ships, whether or not it had compliance issues.

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 [feel free to add new questions here.  The ones above feel a bit 'rigged'.]
-* What companies using Busybox did the SFC requested unrelated source code from - please clarify unrelated?
+* Q. What companies dropped embedded Linux projects in response to litigation from the SFC??
-* What companies dropped embedded Linux projects in response to litigation from the SFC??
+* Q. What compliant companies re-evaluated their adoption of Linux, please clarify 're-evaluate`?
+* A. Unfortunately, a lot of the reaction to the lawsuits was discussed in private and with the expectation of confidentiality.  I am not at liberty to provide details here from my experience (this is Tim writing.)
-* What compliant companies re-evaluated their adoption of Linux, please clarify 're-evaluate`?
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		+	* What companies using Busybox did the SFC requested unrelated source code from - please clarify unrelated?
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		+	* What companies dropped embedded Linux projects in response to litigation from the SFC??
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		+	* What compliant companies re-evaluated their adoption of Linux, please clarify 're-evaluate`?

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 This project is still Under Construction.
-This project is in the proposal and fact-gathering stage, and is still under construction. Please be advised that multiple aspects of this project are still being defined and under consideration.  We have not 100% committed to using ToyBox as the replacement, although this seems very likely at this point.  When the proposal is launched, it will likely be announced with more firm details about the roadmap, governance, license and schedule.
+This project is in the proposal and fact-gathering stage, and is still under construction. Please be advised that multiple aspects of this project are still being defined and under consideration.  We have not 100% committed to using ToyBox as the replacement, although this seems very likely at this point.  If the project proceed, then when it is launched, it will likely be announced with more firm details about the roadmap, governance, license and schedule.
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 == FAQ ==

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	* A. It is not expected to affect Sony directly, because Sony has good compliance practices. However, any company can make a mistake. There are instances where this litigation and the terms requested by the SFC have resulted in companies dropping their embedded Linux projects. It has also caused even compliant companies to re-evaluate their adoption of Linux. This has a net negative effect (in my opinion) on the adoption of Linux and ultimate amount of GPL software produced. Tim (and Sony) view the production of GPL software as a good thing. It does sound strange that this is the goal when the proposed project exists to replace a piece of GPL software with a non-GPL piece of software, but the overall desired affect of this project is to encourage more companies to adopt GPL software (particularly the Linux kernel), and to comply with the obligations of the GPL license.		* A. It is not expected to affect Sony directly, because Sony has good compliance practices. However, any company can make a mistake. There are instances where this litigation and the terms requested by the SFC have resulted in companies dropping their embedded Linux projects. It has also caused even compliant companies to re-evaluate their adoption of Linux. This has a net negative effect (in my opinion) on the adoption of Linux and ultimate amount of GPL software produced. Tim (and Sony) view the production of GPL software as a good thing. It does sound strange that this is the goal when the proposed project exists to replace a piece of GPL software with a non-GPL piece of software, but the overall desired affect of this project is to encourage more companies to adopt GPL software (particularly the Linux kernel), and to comply with the obligations of the GPL license.

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 * [1] Busybox - http://busybox.net/
 * [2] Toybox - http://www.landley.net/toybox/about.html
-* [3]
+* [3] Bsdbox - http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/BsdBox
 == Comments ==