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Latest revision as of 21:05, 13 May 2010
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Description
CELF has been researching the possibilty of creating a "subset" Libc specification. This would be a specification for a reduced set of C-library APIs (or possibly ABIs) that would be appropriate for CE products.
Several small-footprint libraries are already available for Linux (see the Projects section below for a partial listing.)
Rationale
The C library is one of the largest pieces of software in a CE product, that CE products all have in common. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the current de-facto standard C library for Linux, glibc, is larger than needed for many CE application areas. It is hoped that by producing a specification for reducing API functionality required for CE products, it will allow easier and more reliable use of small-footprint C libraries in the CE space.
Resources
Projects
There are numerous small C library projects, including the following:
- uClibc - see http://www.uclibc.org/
- dietlibc - see http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/
A special small C library is klibc. See the following resources:
There doesn't appear to be a real webpage for klibc, but the code is available from every Linux kernel mirror:
ftp://ftp.<country>.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/
(old) announce on LWN:
http://lwn.net/Articles/7117/
Discussions related to klibc on Kernel Traffic:
http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/topics/Klibc.html
Specifications
There are a number of existing
- POSIX has a set of "application profile environments", which are sub-sets of POSIX APIS for real-time operation systems.
- POSIX standard which defines these is: IEEE Std 1003.13-1998 There are four different profiles, labeled PSE 51, 52, 53, and 54.
- PSE 51, 52 do not require multiple process support
- PSE 51, 53 do not require file systems
- All require threads, other real-time and classic Unix features
- PSE 52 API is a subset of PSE 54, PSE 51 is a subset of PSE 52
- There's a presentation on the inadequacy of POSIX PSE 52 at: http://diicoe.disa.mil/coe/aog_twg/twg/rttwg/pse_52_discussion.ppt
- POSIX standard which defines these is: IEEE Std 1003.13-1998 There are four different profiles, labeled PSE 51, 52, 53, and 54.
- Red Hat created a specification for reduced functionality, called EL/IX
- The Embedded Linux Consortium produced a specification, with subsetted tiers:
- see http://www.embedded-linux.org/platform.php3 (requires free registration)
- The Linux Standard Base (LSB) is a specification for a FULL Linux C API. The subset libc should therefore be a strict subset of the LSB API.
Downloads
- none so far
Utility programs
not applicable
How To Use
How to validate
CELF has had informal talks with the Free Standards Group (the current owners of the Linux Standard Base specification) about leveraging existing LSB test infrastructure to test subset libc implementations. Our main point of contact for this has been LSB lead developer Stuart Anderson.
Sample Results
[Examples of use with measurement of the effects.]
Case Study 1
Case Study 2
Status
- Status: not started
(one of: not started, researched, implemented, measured, documented, accepted)
- Architecture Support:
(for each arch, one of: unknown, patches apply, compiles, runs, works, accepted)
- i386: unknown
- ARM: unknown
- PPC: unknown
- MIPS: unknown
- SH: unknown
Ideas on small-library compatibility with glibc, from an expert
Erik Andersen, the maintainer of uClibc, was asked about the possibility of ABI compatibility between uClibc and glibc, and the following was his response: (This was from a private message October 10, 2004 - Erik gave his permission to publish this.)
>> Eric, >> >> SZWG(System Size Working Group) has just start the disucussion >> of uClibc. The attached presentation material was provided by >> Motorola how they approach to the size reduction. They tried >> several things. P.6 shows their trial about uClibc. >> They saw huge size reduction by using uClibc but encountered >> some issue at the same time. >> Basically, they had compatibility issue between glibc(originally >> used) and uClibc. They listed the following three candidate as >> possible solution. By "compatibility issue" you mean that existing binaries that had previously been compiled vs glibc will not run with uClibc without being recompiled. Or more succinctly: uClibc is API compatible with glibc, but not ABI compatible. >> Possible Solution: >> 1) Rebuild each component.Request 3rdpart vendors to rebuild. >> 2) Modify uClibcto be API compatible with glibc, >> including adding a versioning system and structure >> modification. >> 3) Write a lightweight "translation" or "pass-through" version >> of glibc that satisfies the requirements of each executable >> are met, but that calls the uClibclibrary to perform the >> necessary work. >> >> First, they tried 1) approach but they gave it up, because of >> difficulty to ask several 3rd parties to modify and rebuild >> their software. I strongly recommend #1. Recompiling applications with uClibc is almost always very easy to do for applications that already compile with glibc. If the vendor is not technically capable of doing the needed work, I have a consulting company that would be happy to provide assistance to 3rd vendors and to Motorola. :-) >> Finally, Motorola selected 3) and developed >> "translation" or "pass-through" layer having uClibc underneath. Yuck. That sounds absolutely horrible. >> As I understood, uClibc - from API point of view - is very >> close to glibc. Which part can be incompatible ? uClibc and glibc have nearly identical APIs. With a very few exceptions, almost any program that will compile with glibc will also compile with uClibc. http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/uClibc/docs/Glibc_vs_uClibc_Differences.txt?view=auto >> Is there a way to make uClibc fully compatible with glibc ? In my opinion, uClibc _is_ compatible with glibc. But it is compatible at the source code (API) level. Most code can be easily recompiled vs the latest uClibc. What you are really asking about is binary, or ABI compatibility. The largest issues preventing uClibc from having an ABI that is 100% binary compatible with glibc are the following things. 1) Naming. uClibc's shared library loader, C library, and even start up functions are named differently from their glibc counterparts. 2) uClibc sometimes uses different opaque data types than glibc. 3) uClibc directly uses the linux kernel's arch specific data structures, such as 'stuct stat', while glibc almost always translates kernel data structures into separate user space data structures. This causes uClibc to be somewhat more tightly coupled with a particular kernel major version (2.2.x, 2.4.x, 2.6.x) than glibc. When changing from 2.4.x to 2.6.x, it is advisable to recompile uClibc. 4) uClibc's stdio code is completely different from glibc's. This causes significant ABI differences for functions that are possible pthread cancellation points, for functions that are allowed to be macros by SuSv3. Additionally, uClibc allows BUFSIZ to be set to values different from that used by glibc. Some stdio functions, such as fcloseall() and __fpending() can behave differently than their glibc counterparts. Other stdio functions, such as fscanf() behave differently in cases where glibc does not comply with SuSv3. 5) /etc/timezone and the whole zoneinfo directory tree are not supported by uClibc. uClibc uses /etc/TZ, set per the value of the TZ env variable, per SuSv3. 6) Symbol versioning. All glibc symbols have specific symbol versioning applied, so glibc does not have an 'fopen' symbol, but rather has a 'fopen@GLIBC_2.0' symbol. In some cases, such as with 'sys_siglist', glibc has a number of implementations of the same symbol (sys_siglist@GLIBC_2.0, sys_siglist@GLIBC_2.1, and sys_siglist@@GLIBC_2.3.3) in order to maintain ABI compatibility with earlier versions of glibc. doubtless there are other reasons why uClibc's ABI does not and will not easily match the glibc ABI. -Erik
Future Work/Action Items
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