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This page is intended as a space to discuss change and alterations to the design and layout of the RPi hub pages, as well as a point of contact for issues/tidy up jobs which are outstanding.
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<del>The RPi administration is headed by the [[Project:RPi Council|RPi Council]] now. </del> <br>
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:The RPi Council is now defunct and i hope that it gets replaced by open , collaborative and fair <br>
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:discussion between Wiki editors instead. Therefore i believe this page might be used as the central <br>
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:place for discussions around the Raspberry Pi Wiki articles again. <br>
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:Here are some things i'd like to address :
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:* 1. What happens to the RPi_Council page ? Shall we merge it with this one ?
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:* 2. I want to start a thread on the raspberrypi.org forums with updates on "cleaning up the Wiki" and a call for volunteers. <br>
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::This is of paramount importance IMHO. Perhaps we can interested helpers from the beta RaspberryPi Stackexchange , too. <br>
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::I believe that by communication via and presence on the forum we can make this Wiki much more useful for everyone. <br>
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::What do you think ?
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:* 3. Does anyone have a overview who translates Wiki articles and how this is managed ?
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::I'd like to talk to MagPi translators , other volunteers and eLinux.org admins if we can do anything improve <br>
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::the situation or work together better.<br>
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:Regards , [[User:Ghans|Ghans]] ([[User talk:Ghans|talk]]) 14:09, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
  
Please feel free to add your own comments, ideas and thoughts.
 
  
==My ideas -- Ghans ==
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The Big-8 approved usenet unmoderated newsgroup [news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi] and began propagating 2013.04.01 among newsservers.
 
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Is this better organized under [[RPi Community|Supporting Communities]] or [[RPi Education|Schools, Universities, Clubs & Groups]]?
'''Please use the category RaspberryPi!''' This stops duplicate work and helps people find information !
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I put it under [[RPi Community|Supporting Communities]] for now. [[User:DisneyWizard|DisneyWizard]] ([[User talk:DisneyWizard|talk]]) 21:50, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Tag your images/uploads also !
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: I think that makes the most sense. Did you announce this somewhere else ? [[User:Ghans|Ghans]] ([[User talk:Ghans|talk]]) 14:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Hey there, if there's anything I can add to elinux.org to make things easier for the RPi community, please let me knowSend email to [[User:Wmat]]. --[[User:Wmat|Wmat]] ([[User talk:Wmat|talk]]) 20:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
''meltwater - Agreed, categories need to be added (not too familiar with them - so will learn), in particular general RaspberryPi tags (would improve searching a lot). TO DO - Will need everyone to help with it please.''
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::: Hi Wmat , thank you for dropping by. Are there any methods which could help with translation of <br>
 
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:::individual pages into several languages ? Are they currently enabled or could be enabled in the future  ? <br>
ghans - It's easy to to do : Just add <nowiki> [[Category:RaspberryPi]] </nowiki> to the top of each article !
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:::I have to admit that i don't have any overview who does translation work on the wiki and how , but if <b>
Can be done on images , too. I'm currently searching and re-applying the category .
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:::any of our diligent translators read this , please drop a note if and how you could be assisted by a technical solution. [[User:Ghans|Ghans]] ([[User talk:Ghans|talk]]) 13:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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''meltwater - thanks, just noticed you had. Added notes on the new thread asking for editors.
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'''Recruit wiki editors on the forums!'''
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''meltwater - Will add a thread. DONE''
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'''Is a guestbook in a wiki a good idea?'''
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''meltwater - It no more open to abuse than any other part, but it can be removed if wanted (at that point I was playing around with ideas - so happy either way).''
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ghans - OK. I just thought a real guestbook would be more appropriate.
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''meltwater - is there a proper one, or do you mean on the main org page.  To be fair the thread linked seems good enough so far, so it might not be required on the wiki too (can see if it gets used or not).''
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'''Offer the foundation and forum admins a reliable solution to migrate each part of their WP site''': Forum , comments, guestbook and this wiki (away from eLinux )!
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A single Wordpress site isn't made to support all this.
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ELinux is a wiki for many boards , but a seperate one for the Raspberry couldn't hurt !
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''meltwater - I agree about the site and forums, but that's up to the foundation. They are getting server space I believe so hopefully things will evolve.''
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ghans - What I meant was that at the moment the Foundation could do with donations of human and technocal resources.  
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Money wouldn't hurt , but they are constantly referring to  <nowiki> "the community" </nowiki> . For example , some generous people on the forums offered their root/webservers to seed and  host (ftp) some SDCard images .
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''meltwater - They were donated the server space to run the site etc. I don't know if they plan to change anything else yet.
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''I think  <nowiki> "the community" </nowiki> will not be in a single place, but spread everywhere, with hubs of activity focused in all kinds of areas.''
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''The problem I saw was 100s/1000s of groups all working away in their own spaces on the same stuff unaware of each other, hopefully they can be linked through this, rather than pulling content in, just tying it together.''
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''Any idea how the old web-ring thing used to work?''
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ghans - I just came to know about '''Frambozenbier/EduGeek .  Will they be able to help us?'''
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''meltwater -  I've added their links in the community part.  They have offered to build tutorials and guides through the wiki which is good, hopefully other communities will do the same or use the wiki to link theirs.''
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''Need to spot and keep an eye out of other hubs of RPi related work and link them, such as RPi Puppy, RPi KidsRuby etc.''
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''A lot of it will hopefully come as people get kit, ideally they'll search for what they want to do and put links to useful stuff on this wiki.  Some will prefer writing guides etc in forums, blogs etc others will use the wiki itself.  I think there will be a lot of content out there when the boards come and a big community following.''
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They obviously need support for their community !
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== DeadLinks/Old Pages ==
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'''[[RaspberryPiFirstSteps]]''' - almost duplicated by [[RPi Hardware Basic Setup]] - sorry didn't spot it (meltwater) (can be removed once all important info is transferred).
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* ''RaspberryPiFirstSteps merged into RPi Hardware Basic Setup and redirect put in place - [[User:Tufty]]''
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'''[[RaspberryPiBoard]]''' - original page now superseded by [[R-Pi Hub]].
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* ''RaspberryPiBoard merged into multiple other articles (all of these are linked to from R-Pi Hub). Redirect put in place - [[User:Tufty]]''
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'''[[RaspberryPiBoard/EducationalLinks]]''' - needed merging into [[Rpi Education]].
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* ''RaspberryPiBoard/EducationalLinks merged into Rpi Education and redirect put in place - [[User:Tufty]]''
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'''[[Rpi links]]''' - needed merging into [[R-Pi Hub]], [[Rpi HardwareHistory]] and [[Rpi Education]].
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* ''Rpi links merged into other articles and redirect put in place - [[User:Tufty]]''.
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== To Do ==
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'''Schools, Universities, Clubs & Groups [[Rpi Education]]'''
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* My original thought is to keep it separate to the community links, since one main focus of the RPi is the education side and ideally schools and clubs etc can share with each other through their own group pagesBut feel free to change it!
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**''I've merged the links into the education page, and note that there's a link to the education page from the community page. That should cover all the bases - [[User:Tufty]]''
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'''RPi Projects, Guides & Tutorials [[RaspberryPiBoardProjects]]'''
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* Requires content!
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'''Beginners Guide [[RPi Beginners]]'''
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* Needs a little tidy up and probably updating (by those who know!). Abbreviated guide now at [[RPi Hardware Basic Setup]] should also be reviewed over time.
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'''Language / Translations'''
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* Section has been created for this. Create version of page i.e. "FR:R-Pi Hub" and link at top with suitable flag.  Keep the page names the same so re-linking is easy.
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** ''Have added redirects for misspellings of R-Pi Hub in [[R-Pi Hub | EN]]/[[FR:R-Pi Hub | FR]]/[[DE:R-Pi Hub | DE]]/[[ES:R-Pi Hub | ES]], plus re-jigged the layout on each version - [[User:Tufty]]''
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==Design Ideas/Improvements==
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== Information/URL-Structure ==
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Right now, the RPi-specific content on this Wiki is merely a loosely connected set of pages, some of them prefixed with RPi, some not. Does anybody know how eLinux.org handles such vendor-specific groups besides the usual Category: tags? Are there special Namespaces for them (i.e. RPi:Hub, RPi:Buyers_Guide), is the use of Subdirectories recommended (i.e. RPi/Hub, RPi:Buyers_Guide, BeagleBoard does that to some extent)? --[[User:Phoque|Phoque]] 15:08, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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*''I've changed all of the English pages to'' '''RPi_Name''' ''- note the capitals and the space. In order to produce some coherence I've put together this:
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{{Template:Raspberry Pi}}
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:...just add <nowiki>{{Template:Raspberry Pi}}</nowiki> at the bottom of a page, and let me know if any help is needed updating the template - [[User:Tufty|Tufty]] 20:36, 28 January 2012 (UTC)''
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Revision as of 13:43, 13 April 2013

The RPi administration is headed by the RPi Council now.

The RPi Council is now defunct and i hope that it gets replaced by open , collaborative and fair
discussion between Wiki editors instead. Therefore i believe this page might be used as the central
place for discussions around the Raspberry Pi Wiki articles again.
Here are some things i'd like to address :
  • 1. What happens to the RPi_Council page ? Shall we merge it with this one ?
  • 2. I want to start a thread on the raspberrypi.org forums with updates on "cleaning up the Wiki" and a call for volunteers.
This is of paramount importance IMHO. Perhaps we can interested helpers from the beta RaspberryPi Stackexchange , too.
I believe that by communication via and presence on the forum we can make this Wiki much more useful for everyone.
What do you think ?
  • 3. Does anyone have a overview who translates Wiki articles and how this is managed ?
I'd like to talk to MagPi translators , other volunteers and eLinux.org admins if we can do anything improve
the situation or work together better.
Regards , Ghans (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


The Big-8 approved usenet unmoderated newsgroup news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi and began propagating 2013.04.01 among newsservers. Is this better organized under Supporting Communities or Schools, Universities, Clubs & Groups? I put it under Supporting Communities for now. DisneyWizard (talk) 21:50, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that makes the most sense. Did you announce this somewhere else ? Ghans (talk) 14:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey there, if there's anything I can add to elinux.org to make things easier for the RPi community, please let me know. Send email to User:Wmat. --Wmat (talk) 20:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Wmat , thank you for dropping by. Are there any methods which could help with translation of
individual pages into several languages ? Are they currently enabled or could be enabled in the future  ?
I have to admit that i don't have any overview who does translation work on the wiki and how , but if
any of our diligent translators read this , please drop a note if and how you could be assisted by a technical solution. Ghans (talk) 13:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)