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20:26, 28 May 2014 Prpplague (Talk | contribs) New reply created (Reply to Hijacking of BeagleBone page with company redirect page)
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14:31, 11 March 2014 Morgaine (Talk | contribs) New thread created  
  • jkridner: As much as I love BBB, hijacking elinux's BeagtleBone page with this redirect of yours is completely inappropriate. If you want the Beagleboard.org and capes sites to be known to readers, add your information to the main wiki article. The precedent you've set is apalling. Just imagine if every manufacturer were to hijack community wikis this way with their own redirecting portal pages. Community wikis are not corporate portals for manipulating this way. I'm going to revert this change, but giving you a chance to see your error and do so yourself. Morgaine (talk) 14:31, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Morgaine (talk)14:31, 11 March 2014

This was done in conjunction with User:Wmat. I'm not thrilled by having two sets of pages rather than simply contributing to the community page, but there is a desire to be able to assert a certain amount of accountability for the information and allowing/monitoring all community edits makes that difficult.

There is no redirect, merely a link. I suggest working with User:Wmat if you want to change how people get to the "official" pages. Of course I'm willing to entertain any specific suggestions you might have, but I hope you appreciate our efforts to keep critical community resources on eLinux.org with editors who won't keep up with every community edit.

Jkridner (talk)18:15, 19 March 2014

jkidner wrote:

> "but there is a desire to be able to assert a certain amount of accountability for the information and allowing/monitoring all community edits makes that difficult."

Yes, I bet there is a desire by all corporations to control community activity, but that is absolutely not the wiki way. This wiki has nothing to do with you in a corporate sense, it's a community wiki and not a BeagleBoard.org wiki. You have hijacked for purposes of company control something that you have no inherent right to control as a company.

And yes, you did force an effective redirect, because you renamed "BeagleBone" to "BeagleBone Community" and BeagleBone now points to your master portal page. And it sticks out like a sore thumb, because the portal page isn't even about BeagleBone --- it should be renamed "BeagleBone Sites". Wiki pages names describe objects, and your portal does not.

I have not reverted because I don't want war, but what you have done is totally out of step with the wiki meme, a company grab of a community page name and assertion of domain over it. Morgaine (talk) 14:54, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Morgaine (talk)14:55, 20 April 2014

I neither completely agree or disagree. I didn't architect this switch-over. There is a desire to maintain control over some of the content to guarantee the quality. I believe the wiki-way is to closely monitor and edit the pages, yet not all of the documentation maintainers are willing to watch the changes so closely.

Can you make specific suggestions to address your concerns?

Jkridner (talk)16:39, 23 April 2014

What a mess. I don't like the layout at all. It seems intentionally confusing. I'll try to find some time to adjust the wording and links to remove some of the confusion. (Not sure when I'll get to it, though.)

Tim Bird (talk)18:10, 28 May 2014

Tim,

this was the best solution we could come up with that would satisfy all parties. suggestions are welcome on this. at the time we had four separate wiki sites, all of which are now combined into one at elinux. the core "official" beagle parts are required to have closed permissions on edits. the community pages are open.

Dave

Prpplague (talk)20:26, 28 May 2014